{"id":646,"date":"2011-04-02T00:58:58","date_gmt":"2011-04-01T23:58:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/emphatic.se\/?p=646"},"modified":"2011-05-02T17:57:00","modified_gmt":"2011-05-02T16:57:00","slug":"mounting-a-pretty-suzo-500-in-an-egret-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emphatic.se\/?p=646","title":{"rendered":"Mounting a (pretty) SUZO 500 in an EGRET II"},"content":{"rendered":"

Updated 2010-05-02<\/span> (added a picture of the screw, extender and washer I use)<\/p>\n

Most EGRET II owners (or any Japanese cabinet owners) swear by their SANWA or Seimitsu sticks (I used to do that as well), but then I read someone @ the shmups forums write how awesome the SUZO 500 is for shmups, because of the extremely short throw and the lightning fast engage, so naturally I had to try them.<\/p>\n

The trouble is though, these sticks don’t come with a threaded metal shaft that you can fit any ball top you want to with ease, like you might have grown accustomed to with your choice of quality Japanese sticks. Instead you get a pretty sad looking moulded shaft cover\/ball top combo with a dust cover thrown into the mix as well.<\/p>\n

The SUZO 500<\/strong> can be found in many popular part shops under a couple of different names:
\nUltimarc<\/a> (Euro-stik) | Groovy Game Gear<\/a> (Omni-Stik Basic) | Arcadeshop.de<\/a> (Multi-way Joystick)<\/p>\n

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SUZO 500<\/p><\/div>\n

As you can see, this thing isn’t a straight fit for a standard metal panel and will need a little extra work, but it’ll be worth your while. If you have access to a metal shop and know a thing or two on how to use a lathe, you can whip up a custom shaft yourself using the guide below:<\/p>\n

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Blueprint for a custom SUZO 500 shaft<\/p><\/div>\n

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SUZO custom shaft - done<\/p><\/div>\n

You can use a standard SANWA JLF sized washer with this shaft and it will have the same look as a SANWA from the outside, yet to the touch it’s completely different.<\/p>\n

As an alternative to getting a custom shaft done yourself, Groovy Game Gear sells these:
\nVersa-Ball Mirrored stainless steel Ball-Top<\/a> However, you can’t fit a Seimitsu or SANWA ball top on these, as the threading differs. :\/ They work as a ”quick and easy” solution though.<\/p>\n

The SUZO 500 though has a pretty big flaw… The microswitches aren’t properly seated until you tighten the screws that pull the restrictor against them, and while you’re doing that, they might move around still and not end up where they’re wanted. With a joystick as sensitive as this, you can’t have any ”wiggle room” as it will totally ruin the experience.<\/p>\n

When I first had mine installed in the panel and started to test it, I was going crazy as the stick was superb, yet kept going by itself in one direction without me touching it and what not. Like getting involved with a crazy, sexy chick. \ud83d\ude00\u00a0 It took a while to figure out, and some fine tuning to get perfect.<\/p>\n

When mounting the stick to your TAITO or SEGA panel (I’ve never tried this though), you will need:<\/p>\n

4 pieces of M4 threaded extenders<\/strong> (the height depends on how much clearance you have under the control panel), mine are 18mm tall<\/p>\n

4 pieces of M4 machine screws<\/strong>, 16 mm tall<\/p>\n

8 washers for the M4 screws<\/p>\n

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SUZO mounting stuff - listed above<\/p><\/div>\n

Now, you put 4 of your washers and the threaded extenders on the mounting screws that are welded onto the bottom side of your panel, but don’t tighten all of them all the way. Then you put the remaining 4 washers between the SUZO’s body and the extenders then put the machine screws through them both. These washers are very important, because the SUZO 500 won’t sit straight unless you have these. When you tighten the screws the extenders will get tightened as well.<\/p>\n

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Mounted with a custom shaft in a Starcab TAITO replica panel<\/p><\/div>\n

As you can see, the ”collar” dust washer that’s moulded to the JLF actuator fits well under the panel now. The top side (when using a With a ball-top and SANWA washer) will look like this:<\/p>\n

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SUZO 500 mounting finished<\/p><\/div>\n

If you have an original wire harness in your panel, you will need an extra harness as the SUZO 500 doesn’t use the 5-pin JST connector that SANWA JLF’s and Seimitsu LS-32-01’s use. Check my article<\/a> on an easy way of doing that as well.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Updated 2010-05-02 (added a picture of the screw, extender and washer I use) Most EGRET II owners (or any Japanese cabinet owners) swear by their SANWA or Seimitsu sticks (I used to do that as well), but then I read someone @ the shmups forums write how awesome the SUZO 500 is for shmups, because … <\/p>\n

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